Discussion:
Great Movie Ride Changes
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Steve Russo
2014-11-26 11:37:48 UTC
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http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/26/business/media/disney-pairs-up-with-turner-to-promote-shows-and-a-ride.html?_r=0

THERE is a saying in Hollywood, attributed to Katharine Hepburn, about
why the pairing of Fred Astaire and Gingers Rogers worked so well: “He
gave her class, and she gave him sex.” Two familiar names in
entertainment that are teaming up for another pas de deux may not be
Astaire and Rogers, but they are giving each other something each wants.
The Turner Classic Movies cable channel is joining with two divisions of
the Walt Disney Company for an agreement, to be announced on Wednesday,
that underlines how media giants are increasingly collaborating on
content-marketing efforts.

TCM will help the Walt Disney Parks and Resorts division make changes to
the Great Movie Ride, a long-running attraction at the Disney’s
Hollywood Studios section of Disney World in Orlando, Fla.
In return, TCM will receive “Presented by” credits at the attraction on
posters, banners, display windows, marquees and the like, which will
also display the TCM logo.

In the other part of the deal, another Disney division, Walt Disney
Studios, will provide TCM with vintage movies, cartoons, documentaries
and episodes of TV series like “Disneyland” and “Walt Disney’s Wonderful
World of Color” for a periodic programming block on the channel under
the banner of “Treasures From the Disney Vault.”
The block will be offered by TCM “roughly four to five times a year,”
said Charlie Tabesh, senior vice president for programming and
production of TCM.

“Disney films and other programming have been seen a little bit on TCM,
but not much,” he added. “It will be exciting to dig into the vault and
see classic Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck, ‘The Wonderful World of Disney,’
” he said.

The initial block of Disney programming by TCM is to run from 8 p.m.,
Eastern time, on Dec. 21 through 5:15 a.m. on Dec. 22. “It’s a Sunday
night,” Mr. Tabesh said, “a perfect family night and getting close to
Christmas.”

Among the nine scheduled items from the Disney archives are “Santa’s
Workshop,” a 1932 cartoon; “The Disneyland Story,” in which Walt Disney
himself describes in 1954 plans for the park named Disneyland that he
opened in Anaheim, Calif., the next year; “Davy Crockett, King of the
Wild Frontier,” edited from episodes of a “Disneyland” serial about the
frontiersman; and “The Vanishing Prairie,” a nature documentary.

The changes for the Disney World ride are scheduled to be introduced in
the first quarter of 2015, perhaps in the early spring. What visitors
see as they wait for the ride and watch as part of the finale will
receive a reboot under the aegis of TCM, playing on its reputation as an
expert in classic film.

Among the new elements will be a video featuring Robert Osborne, the
host who has been the face of TCM since the channel began operations in
1994; he will identify himself as “from Turner Classic Movies.”
The idea is to “inject TCM brand authority” into the ride, said Pola
Changnon, vice president for brand creative and on-air promotions at
TCM, and “pique the curiosity” of visitors, encouraging them to explore
the world of classic film once they are home.

TCM is part of the Turner Entertainment Networks division of Turner
Broadcasting System, which is owned by Time Warner. The agreement
between TCM and the Disney divisions, for undisclosed terms, expands
upon a relationship between TCM and various parts of Disney.
For instance, the fourth TCM Classic Cruise, held last month, was the
second aboard the Disney Cruise Line ship called Disney Magic. And a
highlight of the 2014 TCM Classic Film Festival, held in April, was a
50th anniversary screening of the Disney Studios movie “Mary Poppins” at
El Capitan Theater, which is owned by Disney.

“We’re looking at this as a strategic alliance that brings together two
very strong brands, both with a core in the business of entertainment,”
said Carlos Castro, vice president for corporate alliances of Disney,
“and complements Disney’s commitment to great storytelling and
delivering quality family entertainment.”

“Part of our process in vetting all our partners is making sure their
brands align with the Disney brand,” Mr. Castro added, “and both brands
are a natural fit.” The TV initiative “lets us share more classic Disney
stories with TCM audiences,” he said, and “the refresh of the Great
Movie Ride” will “enhance the guest experience by showcasing TCM content
and talent.”

Jennifer Dorian, general manager of TCM, echoed Mr. Castro in describing
the “multifaceted creative collaboration” called for under the new
agreement as “truly a natural fit.” That is important in content
marketing, she said, lest TCM viewers and Disney World guests deem the
partnership inauthentic.

Disney World, Disneyland and El Capitan are examples of what is known as
experiential marketing, which gives consumers a chance to experience
brands in tangible form. TCM has been delving into experiential
marketing with steps that include, in addition to the cruises and film
festivals, guided tours with classic-movies themes in Los Angeles and
New York; auctions of film memorabilia by Bonhams that are “presented by
TCM”; and annual screenings of “Miracle on 34th Street” outside the
Macy’s Herald Square store that is key to the movie’s plot.

According to TCM executives, the agreement began with an administrative
assistant, Amanda Tymeson, who returned from a visit to Disney World and
suggested “that TCM and Disney would be great partners” in revamping the
Great Movie Ride, Ms. Dorian said. Ms. Tymeson has since been promoted.
--
Steve
John Mc.
2014-11-26 11:53:57 UTC
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Post by Steve Russo
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/26/business/media/disney-pairs-up-with-turner-to-promote-shows-and-a-ride.html?_r=0
THERE is a saying in Hollywood, attributed to Katharine Hepburn, about
why the pairing of Fred Astaire and Gingers Rogers worked so well: “He
gave her class, and she gave him sex.” Two familiar names in
entertainment that are teaming up for another pas de deux may not be
Astaire and Rogers, but they are giving each other something each wants.
The Turner Classic Movies cable channel is joining with two divisions of
the Walt Disney Company for an agreement, to be announced on Wednesday,
that underlines how media giants are increasingly collaborating on
content-marketing efforts.
TCM will help the Walt Disney Parks and Resorts division make changes to
the Great Movie Ride, a long-running attraction at the Disney’s Hollywood
Studios section of Disney World in Orlando, Fla.
In return, TCM will receive “Presented by” credits at the attraction on
posters, banners, display windows, marquees and the like, which will also
display the TCM logo.
In the other part of the deal, another Disney division, Walt Disney
Studios, will provide TCM with vintage movies, cartoons, documentaries
and episodes of TV series like “Disneyland” and “Walt Disney’s Wonderful
World of Color” for a periodic programming block on the channel under the
banner of “Treasures From the Disney Vault.”
The block will be offered by TCM “roughly four to five times a year,”
said Charlie Tabesh, senior vice president for programming and production of TCM.
“Disney films and other programming have been seen a little bit on TCM,
but not much,” he added. “It will be exciting to dig into the vault and
see classic Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck, ‘The Wonderful World of Disney,’ ” he said.
The initial block of Disney programming by TCM is to run from 8 p.m.,
Eastern time, on Dec. 21 through 5:15 a.m. on Dec. 22. “It’s a Sunday
night,” Mr. Tabesh said, “a perfect family night and getting close to Christmas.”
Among the nine scheduled items from the Disney archives are “Santa’s
Workshop,” a 1932 cartoon; “The Disneyland Story,” in which Walt Disney
himself describes in 1954 plans for the park named Disneyland that he
opened in Anaheim, Calif., the next year; “Davy Crockett, King of the
Wild Frontier,” edited from episodes of a “Disneyland” serial about the
frontiersman; and “The Vanishing Prairie,” a nature documentary.
The changes for the Disney World ride are scheduled to be introduced in
the first quarter of 2015, perhaps in the early spring. What visitors see
as they wait for the ride and watch as part of the finale will receive a
reboot under the aegis of TCM, playing on its reputation as an expert in classic film.
Among the new elements will be a video featuring Robert Osborne, the host
who has been the face of TCM since the channel began operations in 1994;
he will identify himself as “from Turner Classic Movies.”
The idea is to “inject TCM brand authority” into the ride, said Pola
Changnon, vice president for brand creative and on-air promotions at TCM,
and “pique the curiosity” of visitors, encouraging them to explore the
world of classic film once they are home.
TCM is part of the Turner Entertainment Networks division of Turner
Broadcasting System, which is owned by Time Warner. The agreement between
TCM and the Disney divisions, for undisclosed terms, expands upon a
relationship between TCM and various parts of Disney.
For instance, the fourth TCM Classic Cruise, held last month, was the
second aboard the Disney Cruise Line ship called Disney Magic. And a
highlight of the 2014 TCM Classic Film Festival, held in April, was a
50th anniversary screening of the Disney Studios movie “Mary Poppins” at
El Capitan Theater, which is owned by Disney.
“We’re looking at this as a strategic alliance that brings together two
very strong brands, both with a core in the business of entertainment,”
said Carlos Castro, vice president for corporate alliances of Disney,
“and complements Disney’s commitment to great storytelling and delivering
quality family entertainment.”
“Part of our process in vetting all our partners is making sure their
brands align with the Disney brand,” Mr. Castro added, “and both brands
are a natural fit.” The TV initiative “lets us share more classic Disney
stories with TCM audiences,” he said, and “the refresh of the Great Movie
Ride” will “enhance the guest experience by showcasing TCM content and talent.”
Jennifer Dorian, general manager of TCM, echoed Mr. Castro in describing
the “multifaceted creative collaboration” called for under the new
agreement as “truly a natural fit.” That is important in content
marketing, she said, lest TCM viewers and Disney World guests deem the
partnership inauthentic.
Disney World, Disneyland and El Capitan are examples of what is known as
experiential marketing, which gives consumers a chance to experience
brands in tangible form. TCM has been delving into experiential marketing
with steps that include, in addition to the cruises and film festivals,
guided tours with classic-movies themes in Los Angeles and New York;
auctions of film memorabilia by Bonhams that are “presented by TCM”; and
annual screenings of “Miracle on 34th Street” outside the Macy’s Herald
Square store that is key to the movie’s plot.
According to TCM executives, the agreement began with an administrative
assistant, Amanda Tymeson, who returned from a visit to Disney World and
suggested “that TCM and Disney would be great partners” in revamping the
Great Movie Ride, Ms. Dorian said. Ms. Tymeson has since been promoted.
Thank you Steve. I wish they'd define "revamped" though. I fully agree with
a rehab/updating of the ride. And I've nothing against Osborne giving a
little spiel but TCM is the fiend behind colorizing old movies and I'll
never forgive them for that.

John Mc.
Steve Russo
2014-11-26 16:07:00 UTC
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Post by John Mc.
Thank you Steve. I wish they'd define "revamped" though. I fully agree with
a rehab/updating of the ride. And I've nothing against Osborne giving a
little spiel but TCM is the fiend behind colorizing old movies and I'll
never forgive them for that.
Yes, it's easy to love/hate TCM.
--
Steve
Lisa Cubbon
2014-11-26 16:32:25 UTC
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Post by Steve Russo
Post by John Mc.
Thank you Steve. I wish they'd define "revamped" though. I fully agree with
a rehab/updating of the ride. And I've nothing against Osborne giving a
little spiel but TCM is the fiend behind colorizing old movies and I'll
never forgive them for that.
Yes, it's easy to love/hate TCM.
I am on the LOVE TCM side. Turner has done so much to save old films
and what they show is terrific.

Lisa
Patty Winter
2014-11-26 18:16:26 UTC
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In article <1249207041438695460.659204John-***@news.eternal-september.org>,
John Mc. <***@tdcogre.com> wrote:

[whole bunch of quotage deleted]
Post by John Mc.
I've nothing against Osborne giving a
little spiel but TCM is the fiend behind colorizing old movies and I'll
never forgive them for that.
John, are you sure about that? I know that Ted Turner colorized some
old movies, but did any of them ever air on TCM? Are you sure they
weren't just on TBS and TNT?

Even if TCM did air some of them, that would have been back when Turner
himself owned the station, which hasn't been true since 1996. I don't
see any reason at this point (if there even ever was) to doubt TCM's
commitment to classic movies.


Patty
Lisa Cubbon
2014-11-26 19:35:59 UTC
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Post by Patty Winter
[whole bunch of quotage deleted]
Post by John Mc.
I've nothing against Osborne giving a
little spiel but TCM is the fiend behind colorizing old movies and I'll
never forgive them for that.
John, are you sure about that? I know that Ted Turner colorized some
old movies, but did any of them ever air on TCM? Are you sure they
weren't just on TBS and TNT?
Even if TCM did air some of them, that would have been back when Turner
himself owned the station, which hasn't been true since 1996. I don't
see any reason at this point (if there even ever was) to doubt TCM's
commitment to classic movies.
Patty
I am with Patty, I don't think TCM even showed the colorized movies.
And I do everything I can to avoid them.

Or if I have to watch, I look for places the colorist missed. That's fun!


Lisa
Steve Denham
2014-12-02 14:33:28 UTC
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Post by Lisa Cubbon
Post by Patty Winter
[whole bunch of quotage deleted]
Post by John Mc.
I've nothing against Osborne giving a
little spiel but TCM is the fiend behind colorizing old movies and I'll
never forgive them for that.
John, are you sure about that? I know that Ted Turner colorized some
old movies, but did any of them ever air on TCM? Are you sure they
weren't just on TBS and TNT?
Even if TCM did air some of them, that would have been back when Turner
himself owned the station, which hasn't been true since 1996. I don't
see any reason at this point (if there even ever was) to doubt TCM's
commitment to classic movies.
Patty
I am with Patty, I don't think TCM even showed the colorized movies.
And I do everything I can to avoid them.
Or if I have to watch, I look for places the colorist missed. That's fun!
Lisa
How about the place the colorist missed in a Disney animated film? It shows up every time I watch this particular film on television. I can't guarantee that it is the case for the theatrical version, or any of the home media versions.

Anyone want to take a guess?

Steve Denham
TDC Barbie Headhunter
Laura Gilbreath
2014-11-26 16:22:26 UTC
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Post by Steve Russo
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/26/business/media/disney-pairs-up-with-turner-to-promote-shows-and-a-ride.html?_r=0
THERE is a saying in Hollywood, attributed to Katharine Hepburn, about
why the pairing of Fred Astaire and Gingers Rogers worked so well: “He
gave her class, and she gave him sex.” Two familiar names in
entertainment that are teaming up for another pas de deux may not be
Astaire and Rogers, but they are giving each other something each wants.
The Turner Classic Movies cable channel is joining with two divisions of
the Walt Disney Company for an agreement, to be announced on Wednesday,
that underlines how media giants are increasingly collaborating on
content-marketing efforts.
Steve,

Thanks for sharing that - very interesting. I am waiting for the
expressions of outrage by those who object to any kind of
"commercialism" in Disney parks - never mind that in the early days, a
lot of attractions had corporate sponsorship. :-)

I wonder how much of the interior will actually be replaced, or will it
be more of a reboot of the movie clips in the pre-show and at the end.

Laura
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Steve Russo
2014-11-26 17:28:02 UTC
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Post by Laura Gilbreath
Post by Steve Russo
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/26/business/media/disney-pairs-up-with-turner-to-promote-shows-and-a-ride.html?_r=0
THERE is a saying in Hollywood, attributed to Katharine Hepburn, about
why the pairing of Fred Astaire and Gingers Rogers worked so well: “He
gave her class, and she gave him sex.” Two familiar names in
entertainment that are teaming up for another pas de deux may not be
Astaire and Rogers, but they are giving each other something each wants.
The Turner Classic Movies cable channel is joining with two divisions of
the Walt Disney Company for an agreement, to be announced on Wednesday,
that underlines how media giants are increasingly collaborating on
content-marketing efforts.
Steve,
Thanks for sharing that - very interesting. I am waiting for the
expressions of outrage by those who object to any kind of
"commercialism" in Disney parks - never mind that in the early days, a
lot of attractions had corporate sponsorship. :-)
I wonder how much of the interior will actually be replaced, or will it
be more of a reboot of the movie clips in the pre-show and at the end.
My questions exactly. I'd be OK with leaving SOME of the interior intact.
--
Steve
Rudeney
2014-11-26 17:54:19 UTC
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Post by Laura Gilbreath
Post by Steve Russo
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/26/business/media/disney-pairs-up-with-turner-to-promote-shows-and-a-ride.html?_r=0
THERE is a saying in Hollywood, attributed to Katharine Hepburn, about
why the pairing of Fred Astaire and Gingers Rogers worked so well: “He
gave her class, and she gave him sex.” Two familiar names in
entertainment that are teaming up for another pas de deux may not be
Astaire and Rogers, but they are giving each other something each wants.
The Turner Classic Movies cable channel is joining with two divisions of
the Walt Disney Company for an agreement, to be announced on Wednesday,
that underlines how media giants are increasingly collaborating on
content-marketing efforts.
Steve,
Thanks for sharing that - very interesting. I am waiting for the
expressions of outrage by those who object to any kind of
"commercialism" in Disney parks - never mind that in the early days, a
lot of attractions had corporate sponsorship. :-)
You are correct - Disney has a long history of leveraging corporate
sponsorship for its parks. I see TCM as a great fit, and even companies like
HP and GM, too. I know people may feel that some companies are too
controversial for sponsorship, but really, every company has some "baggage".
GM has the whole recall issue, so does that make them an inappropriate
sponsor? Even though I have great disdain for GM, but I don't believe it's a
problem. What would anger me is to see totally inappropriate sponsors, like
"The Tower of Terror Brought to you by Viagra" or "The Jim Walters' Homes
Haunted Mansion".
Post by Laura Gilbreath
I wonder how much of the interior will actually be replaced, or will it
be more of a reboot of the movie clips in the pre-show and at the end.
It doesn't sound like a complex rehab since they say it will open with the
changes 1Q 2015. I would guess just additional clips.
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2014-11-26 18:19:52 UTC
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"The Tower of Terror Brought to you by Viagra"
Well, it does go up... and down... and up... (Someone had to say it.)
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Laura Gilbreath
2014-11-26 18:31:07 UTC
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Post by Rudeney
"The Tower of Terror Brought to you by Viagra"
Well, it does go up... and down... and up... (Someone had to say it.)
LOL! Oh dear...I don't think I will ever visit ToT again without
thinking about the little blue pills... :-)

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Lisa Cubbon
2014-11-26 19:34:55 UTC
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Post by Laura Gilbreath
Post by Steve Russo
Post by Rudeney
"The Tower of Terror Brought to you by Viagra"
Well, it does go up... and down... and up... (Someone had to say it.)
LOL! Oh dear...I don't think I will ever visit ToT again without
thinking about the little blue pills... :-)
Laura
Even better to hand Lee a blue M&M at the end..


I can't believe I said that...


Lisa
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Paul
2014-11-26 21:50:41 UTC
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Post by Laura Gilbreath
Post by Steve Russo
Post by Rudeney
"The Tower of Terror Brought to you by Viagra"
Well, it does go up... and down... and up... (Someone had to say it.)
LOL! Oh dear...I don't think I will ever visit ToT again without
thinking about the little blue pills... :-)
Well, if you get stuck on the ride for more than four hours...
--
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Steve Russo
2014-11-26 22:51:54 UTC
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Post by Paul
Post by Laura Gilbreath
Post by Steve Russo
Post by Rudeney
"The Tower of Terror Brought to you by Viagra"
Well, it does go up... and down... and up... (Someone had to say it.)
LOL! Oh dear...I don't think I will ever visit ToT again without
thinking about the little blue pills... :-)
Well, if you get stuck on the ride for more than four hours...
Bwahahahahaha!
--
Steve
Rudeney
2014-11-27 16:24:35 UTC
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Post by Paul
Post by Laura Gilbreath
Post by Steve Russo
Post by Rudeney
"The Tower of Terror Brought to you by Viagra"
Well, it does go up... and down... and up... (Someone had to say it.)
LOL! Oh dear...I don't think I will ever visit ToT again without
thinking about the little blue pills... :-)
Well, if you get stuck on the ride for more than four hours...
LOL! This just keeps getting better!
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2014-11-26 18:40:11 UTC
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Post by Rudeney
"The Tower of Terror Brought to you by Viagra"
Well, it does go up... and down... and up... (Someone had to say it.)
My coworkers now think I have gone crazy as I am sitting in my office
laughing and crying! Thanks, Steve - I needed that! :-)
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Lisa Cubbon
2014-11-26 19:34:10 UTC
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Post by Steve Russo
Post by Rudeney
"The Tower of Terror Brought to you by Viagra"
Well, it does go up... and down... and up... (Someone had to say it.)
My coworkers now think I have gone crazy as I am sitting in my office
laughing and crying! Thanks, Steve - I needed that! :-)
Spit tea.... LOL!!

Lisa
Steve Russo
2014-11-26 21:37:18 UTC
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Post by Steve Russo
Post by Rudeney
"The Tower of Terror Brought to you by Viagra"
Well, it does go up... and down... and up... (Someone had to say it.)
My coworkers now think I have gone crazy as I am sitting in my office
laughing and crying! Thanks, Steve - I needed that! :-)
My pleasure. Try the veal.
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Jason Woods
2014-12-01 20:36:32 UTC
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Post by Rudeney
"The Tower of Terror Brought to you by Viagra"
Well, it does go up... and down... and up... (Someone had to say it.)
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Sandi Femino
2014-11-28 19:03:03 UTC
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Post by Rudeney
What would anger me is to see totally inappropriate sponsors, like
"The Tower of Terror Brought to you by Viagra" or "The Jim Walters' Homes
Haunted Mansion".
ok...tea spewage! Give a girl some warning, would ya ?!?
Post by Rudeney
It doesn't sound like a complex rehab since they say it will open with the
changes 1Q 2015. I would guess just additional clips.
That's what it sounds like to me...
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Debbi
2014-11-26 18:33:46 UTC
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I wonder how much of the interior will actually be replaced, or will it
be more of a reboot of the movie clips in the pre-show and at the end.
The later. For now.

-ab
Laura Gilbreath
2014-11-26 18:34:17 UTC
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Post by Laura Gilbreath
I wonder how much of the interior will actually be replaced, or will it
be more of a reboot of the movie clips in the pre-show and at the end.
The later. For now.
-ab
Happy Thanksgiving, Boom!

Laura
Debbi
2014-11-26 18:42:10 UTC
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Post by Laura Gilbreath
I wonder how much of the interior will actually be replaced, or will it
be more of a reboot of the movie clips in the pre-show and at the end.
The later. For now.
-ab
Happy Thanksgiving, Boom!
Laura
And a very Happy Thanksgiving to you Laura!
And to all my RADP family, Happy Holidays !!

-ab
Rudeney
2014-11-26 18:41:52 UTC
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Post by Laura Gilbreath
I wonder how much of the interior will actually be replaced, or will it
be more of a reboot of the movie clips in the pre-show and at the end.
The later. For now.
-ab
Happy Thanksgiving, Boom!
Laura
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Lisa Cubbon
2014-11-26 19:33:37 UTC
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Post by Debbi
Post by Laura Gilbreath
Post by Steve Russo
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/26/business/media/disney-pairs-up-with-turner-to-promote-shows-and-a-ride.html?_r=0
Post by Laura Gilbreath
I wonder how much of the interior will actually be replaced, or will it
be more of a reboot of the movie clips in the pre-show and at the end.
The later. For now.
-ab
Happy Thanksgiving, Boom!
Laura
And a very Happy Thanksgiving to you Laura!
And to all my RADP family, Happy Holidays !!
-ab
Hi Boom! Hope Shanghai celebrates with you.


Lisa
Debbi
2014-11-26 21:24:36 UTC
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Post by Lisa Cubbon
Post by Debbi
Post by Laura Gilbreath
Happy Thanksgiving, Boom!
Laura
And a very Happy Thanksgiving to you Laura!
And to all my RADP family, Happy Holidays !!
-ab
Hi Boom! Hope Shanghai celebrates with you.
There is not a lot of hoopla in China for Thanksgiving but that's a moot
point this year because I got dragged back to Florida to finish
installing some new show equipment (lasers to be specific). I might be
able to stretch it out through the end of the year too !!

So most the Boom family is gathering for the big feast. We'll need to
take over most of Epcot just to hold us all !!

Cheers !
-ab
John Mc.
2014-11-26 23:01:05 UTC
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Post by Debbi
Post by Lisa Cubbon
Post by Debbi
Post by Laura Gilbreath
Happy Thanksgiving, Boom!
Laura
And a very Happy Thanksgiving to you Laura!
And to all my RADP family, Happy Holidays !!
-ab
Hi Boom! Hope Shanghai celebrates with you.
There is not a lot of hoopla in China for Thanksgiving but that's a moot
point this year because I got dragged back to Florida to finish
installing some new show equipment (lasers to be specific). I might be
able to stretch it out through the end of the year too !!
So most the Boom family is gathering for the big feast. We'll need to
take over most of Epcot just to hold us all !!
Cheers !
-ab
I'd have thought there's be fireworks or at least cannons.

John Mc.
Lisa Cubbon
2014-11-28 16:37:46 UTC
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Post by Debbi
Post by Lisa Cubbon
Post by Debbi
Post by Laura Gilbreath
Happy Thanksgiving, Boom!
Laura
And a very Happy Thanksgiving to you Laura!
And to all my RADP family, Happy Holidays !!
-ab
Hi Boom! Hope Shanghai celebrates with you.
There is not a lot of hoopla in China for Thanksgiving but that's a moot
point this year because I got dragged back to Florida to finish
installing some new show equipment (lasers to be specific). I might be
able to stretch it out through the end of the year too !!
So most the Boom family is gathering for the big feast. We'll need to
take over most of Epcot just to hold us all !!
Cheers !
-ab
Ah! Dragged with a smile on your face, no doubt. Be well, Debbi!

Lisa
Tom Moeller
2014-12-01 02:50:03 UTC
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Post by Debbi
Post by Lisa Cubbon
Post by Debbi
Post by Laura Gilbreath
Happy Thanksgiving, Boom!
Laura
And a very Happy Thanksgiving to you Laura!
And to all my RADP family, Happy Holidays !!
-ab
Hi Boom! Hope Shanghai celebrates with you.
There is not a lot of hoopla in China for Thanksgiving but that's a moot
point this year because I got dragged back to Florida to finish
installing some new show equipment (lasers to be specific). I might be
able to stretch it out through the end of the year too !!
So most the Boom family is gathering for the big feast. We'll need to
take over most of Epcot just to hold us all !!
Cheers !
-ab
It seemed like nearly every available cast member was on site this week.
I caught myself staring at nametags hoping for a surprise Boom sighting.
I think I ate enough Thanksgiving dinner at Boma to feed everyone...

Tom
Debbi
2014-12-01 15:55:33 UTC
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Post by Tom Moeller
Post by Debbi
So most the Boom family is gathering for the big feast. We'll need to
take over most of Epcot just to hold us all !!
It seemed like nearly every available cast member was on site this week.
I caught myself staring at nametags hoping for a surprise Boom sighting.
I think I ate enough Thanksgiving dinner at Boma to feed everyone...
Overdosed on turkey. The turkey-bacon Monte Cristo sandwiches weren't
bad. The turkey-squash casserole with marshmallows was horrid. I guess I
should have gone to Boma on that day.

We did run into Robert, who claimed to be the imperial ruler of RADP, at
Epcot on Friday and thus had to give him a tour of the Earth globe
barge. Our new holiday tag for Illuminations is quite pretty and should
be seen from Showcase Plaza for the full effect. Why is it that every
time I see a new (fan) article about Illuminations, the stated number of
shells in use goes down and the estimated price per night goes up ? Oh
well, the show is on its last legs anyway.

FYI the BAH will be moved in January - it will be put in storage and
returned to the park after ... well, you'll find out in January. The
Osborne Lights will also be on hiatus after this season (hint, hint).

The Africa Marketplace should open next March. The River of Light (is it
still called that ?) is on schedule for next summer too. There is also
lots of activity behind Kali (hint, hint).

At DTD, the first parking garage (aka garage '2') is open, as is the
food truck court and most of the pathways through and around The Landing
(former Pleasure Island). Waterside Park is finished and The Hanger
(bar) will be open in time for Christmas, as will be the Marketplace
Causeway. A third Starbucks will be built in Town Center (yes !!!).
Raglan Road will also have a second presence in Town Center. So, with
many of the walls down, the place is worth visiting again !!

Plans for the transition of DHS have been approved and funded. The
green-space and wetlands have been converted so a big announcement is
imminent. In fact, by summer of 2015, several major announcements will
be made because there most of the approved expansions have to be
complete by 2020 and some of them will certainly take that long.

More later. I have to get some coffee !!

-ab
Steve Russo
2014-12-01 20:17:15 UTC
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Post by Debbi
Overdosed on turkey.
Me, too.

The turkey-bacon Monte Cristo sandwiches weren't
Post by Debbi
bad. The turkey-squash casserole with marshmallows was horrid.
Yuck!

I guess I
Post by Debbi
should have gone to Boma on that day.
We did run into Robert, who claimed to be the imperial ruler of RADP,
Never heard of him. An obvious imposter. Everyone knows that B*cker was
the Imperial Ruler... or was it Paul T?

at
Post by Debbi
Epcot on Friday and thus had to give him a tour of the Earth globe
barge. Our new holiday tag for Illuminations is quite pretty and should
be seen from Showcase Plaza for the full effect. Why is it that every
time I see a new (fan) article about Illuminations, the stated number of
shells in use goes down and the estimated price per night goes up ? Oh
well, the show is on its last legs anyway.
You've been hinting that for a while now. Still too soon to elaborate?
Post by Debbi
FYI the BAH will be moved in January - it will be put in storage and
returned to the park after ... well, you'll find out in January. The
Osborne Lights will also be on hiatus after this season (hint, hint).
The Africa Marketplace should open next March. The River of Light (is it
still called that ?) is on schedule for next summer too. There is also
lots of activity behind Kali (hint, hint).
All these hints but I don't know what they mean.
Post by Debbi
At DTD, the first parking garage (aka garage '2') is open, as is the
food truck court and most of the pathways through and around The Landing
(former Pleasure Island). Waterside Park is finished and The Hanger
(bar) will be open in time for Christmas, as will be the Marketplace
Causeway. A third Starbucks will be built in Town Center (yes !!!).
Raglan Road will also have a second presence in Town Center. So, with
many of the walls down, the place is worth visiting again !!
Plans for the transition of DHS have been approved and funded. The
green-space and wetlands have been converted so a big announcement is
imminent. In fact, by summer of 2015, several major announcements will
be made because there most of the approved expansions have to be
complete by 2020 and some of them will certainly take that long.
More later. I have to get some coffee !!
As always, Boom... thanks for the insights.
--
Steve
Debbi
2014-12-02 15:30:07 UTC
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Post by Steve Russo
Post by Debbi
Our new holiday tag for Illuminations is quite pretty and should
be seen from Showcase Plaza for the full effect. Why is it that every
time I see a new (fan) article about Illuminations, the stated number of
shells in use goes down and the estimated price per night goes up ? Oh
well, the show is on its last legs anyway.
You've been hinting that for a while now. Still too soon to elaborate?
Steve has been dropping hints from time to time but the final script
hasn't been fully blessed. Think retro ...
Post by Steve Russo
Post by Debbi
FYI the BAH will be moved in January - it will be put in storage and
returned to the park after ... well, you'll find out in January. The
Osborne Lights will also be on hiatus after this season (hint, hint).
Remember that the Streets of America is just a set - it can be moved or
rebuilt elsewhere. Wouldn't it be nice to see the return of Residential
Street and a real backlot tour ?
Post by Steve Russo
Post by Debbi
The Africa Marketplace should open next March. The River of Light (is it
still called that ?) is on schedule for next summer too. There is also
lots of activity behind Kali (hint, hint).
There is a lot of space behind Kali and AK needs a few more classic
attractions to bring the teens back.
Post by Steve Russo
All these hints but I don't know what they mean.
Yeah, sorry. I probably should just keep my mouth shut. I just hate
keeping secrets except that I like keeping my job more!

-ab
Rudeney
2014-12-02 16:09:41 UTC
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Post by Debbi
Post by Steve Russo
Post by Debbi
FYI the BAH will be moved in January - it will be put in storage and
returned to the park after ... well, you'll find out in January. The
Osborne Lights will also be on hiatus after this season (hint, hint).
Remember that the Streets of America is just a set - it can be moved or
rebuilt elsewhere. Wouldn't it be nice to see the return of Residential
Street and a real backlot tour ?
Yes, Residential Street and the Backlot Tour would be nice to see again. Those areas really made DHS feel like a movie studio. But I still don't think the BAH has a place there on any street. Now, if you want to expand the Animation Courtyard and make room for it there, that would be good, or maybe put it at the TTC (that place needs some better decor anyhow).
Post by Debbi
Post by Steve Russo
All these hints but I don't know what they mean.
Yeah, sorry. I probably should just keep my mouth shut. I just hate
keeping secrets except that I like keeping my job more!
You're probably safe talking about stuff here on RADP - there are so few of us around these days, your secrets won't go far.
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Lisa Cubbon
2014-12-02 22:15:02 UTC
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Post by Rudeney
Post by Debbi
Post by Steve Russo
Post by Debbi
FYI the BAH will be moved in January - it will be put in storage and
returned to the park after ... well, you'll find out in January. The
Osborne Lights will also be on hiatus after this season (hint, hint).
Remember that the Streets of America is just a set - it can be moved or
rebuilt elsewhere. Wouldn't it be nice to see the return of Residential
Street and a real backlot tour ?
Yes, Residential Street and the Backlot Tour would be nice to see again. Those areas really made DHS feel like a movie studio. But I still don't think the BAH has a place there on any street. Now, if you want to expand the Animation Courtyard and make room for it there, that would be good, or maybe put it at the TTC (that place needs some better decor anyhow).
Amimation Courtyard just seems like a dead end to me. We used to go the
animation tour often to see the film with Walter and Robin...
Post by Rudeney
Post by Debbi
Post by Steve Russo
All these hints but I don't know what they mean.
Yeah, sorry. I probably should just keep my mouth shut. I just hate
keeping secrets except that I like keeping my job more!
You're probably safe talking about stuff here on RADP - there are so few of us around these days, your secrets won't go far.
That's true, but there are spies everywhere!


Lisa
Rudeney
2014-12-02 22:47:04 UTC
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Post by Lisa Cubbon
Post by Rudeney
Post by Debbi
Post by Debbi
FYI the BAH will be moved in January - it will be put in storage
and returned to the park after ... well, you'll find out in
January. The Osborne Lights will also be on hiatus after this
season (hint, hint).
Remember that the Streets of America is just a set - it can be moved
or rebuilt elsewhere. Wouldn't it be nice to see the return of
Residential Street and a real backlot tour ?
Yes, Residential Street and the Backlot Tour would be nice to see again.
Those areas really made DHS feel like a movie studio. But I still don't
think the BAH has a place there on any street. Now, if you want to
expand the Animation Courtyard and make room for it there, that would be
good, or maybe put it at the TTC (that place needs some better decor
anyhow).
Amimation Courtyard just seems like a dead end to me. We used to go the
animation tour often to see the film with Walter and Robin...
An out-of-the-way dead end is the perfect place for that atrocity that is the BAH!
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Lisa Cubbon
2014-12-02 22:54:30 UTC
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Post by Rudeney
Post by Lisa Cubbon
Post by Rudeney
Post by Debbi
Post by Debbi
FYI the BAH will be moved in January - it will be put in storage
and returned to the park after ... well, you'll find out in
January. The Osborne Lights will also be on hiatus after this
season (hint, hint).
Remember that the Streets of America is just a set - it can be moved
or rebuilt elsewhere. Wouldn't it be nice to see the return of
Residential Street and a real backlot tour ?
Yes, Residential Street and the Backlot Tour would be nice to see again.
Those areas really made DHS feel like a movie studio. But I still don't
think the BAH has a place there on any street. Now, if you want to
expand the Animation Courtyard and make room for it there, that would be
good, or maybe put it at the TTC (that place needs some better decor
anyhow).
Amimation Courtyard just seems like a dead end to me. We used to go the
animation tour often to see the film with Walter and Robin...
An out-of-the-way dead end is the perfect place for that atrocity that is the BAH!
I was thinking more the parking lot at Art Of Animation would be the
perfect place for it!

If it's left in the park, you can still see it!!1

Lisa
Steve Russo
2014-12-02 23:19:36 UTC
Permalink
Post by Rudeney
Post by Lisa Cubbon
Post by Rudeney
Post by Debbi
Post by Debbi
FYI the BAH will be moved in January - it will be put in storage
and returned to the park after ... well, you'll find out in
January. The Osborne Lights will also be on hiatus after this
season (hint, hint).
Remember that the Streets of America is just a set - it can be moved
or rebuilt elsewhere. Wouldn't it be nice to see the return of
Residential Street and a real backlot tour ?
Yes, Residential Street and the Backlot Tour would be nice to see again.
Those areas really made DHS feel like a movie studio. But I still don't
think the BAH has a place there on any street. Now, if you want to
expand the Animation Courtyard and make room for it there, that would be
good, or maybe put it at the TTC (that place needs some better decor
anyhow).
Amimation Courtyard just seems like a dead end to me. We used to go the
animation tour often to see the film with Walter and Robin...
An out-of-the-way dead end is the perfect place for that atrocity that is the BAH!
I'm actually OK with the BAH. I think it's kind of cool but it should
never have been the weenie visible from the park entrance. Just like the
AT-AT by Star Tours - it's great where it is but if it was in front of
Graumann's Theater? Not so much.
--
Steve
Mark L Fendrick
2014-12-03 05:01:42 UTC
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Post by Steve Russo
I'm actually OK with the BAH. I think it's kind of cool but it should
never have been the weenie visible from the park entrance. Just like the
AT-AT by Star Tours - it's great where it is but if it was in front of
Graumann's Theater? Not so much.
I agree with that. I actually have always liked the BAH ... just NOT where it was located.



Mark
Debbi
2014-12-03 14:33:55 UTC
Permalink
Post by Rudeney
Post by Debbi
Post by Steve Russo
Post by Debbi
FYI the BAH will be moved in January - it will be put in storage and
returned to the park after ... well, you'll find out in January. The
Osborne Lights will also be on hiatus after this season (hint, hint).
Remember that the Streets of America is just a set - it can be moved or
rebuilt elsewhere. Wouldn't it be nice to see the return of Residential
Street and a real backlot tour ?
Yes, Residential Street and the Backlot Tour would be nice to see again. Those areas really made DHS feel like a movie studio.
What you'll see, when drawings and site maps start to leak out early
next year, is that there is a good sized area reserved for a new backlot
and tour. It is in the design stage right now and should be part of the
second phase of the DHS expansion. Remember that a backlot tram can go
places ... under and over things ...
Post by Rudeney
Post by Debbi
Post by Steve Russo
All these hints but I don't know what they mean.
Yeah, sorry. I probably should just keep my mouth shut. I just hate
keeping secrets except that I like keeping my job more!
You're probably safe talking about stuff here on RADP - there are so few of us around these days, your secrets won't go far.
I've noticed. I expected to be scolded when I leaked the news about the
RADP pavilion being built at the MK but so far, nothing.

-ab
Lisa Cubbon
2014-12-03 14:54:18 UTC
Permalink
Post by Debbi
Post by Rudeney
You're probably safe talking about stuff here on RADP - there are so
few of us around these days, your secrets won't go far.
I've noticed. I expected to be scolded when I leaked the news about the
RADP pavilion being built at the MK but so far, nothing.
-ab
I know nothing, nothing!


Lisa
Meerkat1
2014-12-03 17:22:53 UTC
Permalink
Post by Debbi
Post by Rudeney
Post by Debbi
Post by Steve Russo
Post by Debbi
FYI the BAH will be moved in January - it will be put in storage and
returned to the park after ... well, you'll find out in January. The
Osborne Lights will also be on hiatus after this season (hint, hint).
Remember that the Streets of America is just a set - it can be moved or
rebuilt elsewhere. Wouldn't it be nice to see the return of Residential
Street and a real backlot tour ?
Yes, Residential Street and the Backlot Tour would be nice to see
again. Those areas really made DHS feel like a movie studio.
What you'll see, when drawings and site maps start to leak out early
next year, is that there is a good sized area reserved for a new
backlot and tour. It is in the design stage right now and should be
part of the second phase of the DHS expansion. Remember that a backlot
tram can go places ... under and over things ...
Post by Rudeney
Post by Debbi
Post by Steve Russo
All these hints but I don't know what they mean.
Yeah, sorry. I probably should just keep my mouth shut. I just hate
keeping secrets except that I like keeping my job more!
You're probably safe talking about stuff here on RADP - there are so
few of us around these days, your secrets won't go far.
I've noticed. I expected to be scolded when I leaked the news about the
RADP pavilion being built at the MK but so far, nothing.
-ab
It's well hidden from public view.
--
Meerkat1 - Chief Engineer
RADP Pavilion
Lisa Cubbon
2014-12-04 21:31:57 UTC
Permalink
Post by Meerkat1
Post by Debbi
I've noticed. I expected to be scolded when I leaked the news about
the RADP pavilion being built at the MK but so far, nothing.
-ab
It's well hidden from public view.
But of course!
Like the Harry Potter Room of Necessity!


Lisa
Rudeney
2014-12-03 18:45:07 UTC
Permalink
Post by Debbi
Post by Rudeney
Post by Debbi
Post by Debbi
FYI the BAH will be moved in January - it will be put in storage and
returned to the park after ... well, you'll find out in January. The
Osborne Lights will also be on hiatus after this season (hint, hint).
Remember that the Streets of America is just a set - it can be moved or
rebuilt elsewhere. Wouldn't it be nice to see the return of Residential
Street and a real backlot tour ?
Yes, Residential Street and the Backlot Tour would be nice to see again. Those areas really made DHS feel like a movie studio.
What you'll see, when drawings and site maps start to leak out early
next year, is that there is a good sized area reserved for a new backlot
and tour. It is in the design stage right now and should be part of the
second phase of the DHS expansion. Remember that a backlot tram can go
places ... under and over things ...
Oh, I see...so I would guess that a DHS expansion might go west? Or maybe
south? And that there are some roads that need to be crossed?
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Steve Russo
2014-12-02 18:49:29 UTC
Permalink
Post by Debbi
Post by Steve Russo
Post by Debbi
Our new holiday tag for Illuminations is quite pretty and should
be seen from Showcase Plaza for the full effect. Why is it that every
time I see a new (fan) article about Illuminations, the stated number of
shells in use goes down and the estimated price per night goes up ? Oh
well, the show is on its last legs anyway.
You've been hinting that for a while now. Still too soon to elaborate?
Steve has been dropping hints from time to time but the final script
hasn't been fully blessed. Think retro ...
Post by Steve Russo
Post by Debbi
FYI the BAH will be moved in January - it will be put in storage and
returned to the park after ... well, you'll find out in January. The
Osborne Lights will also be on hiatus after this season (hint, hint).
Remember that the Streets of America is just a set - it can be moved or
rebuilt elsewhere. Wouldn't it be nice to see the return of Residential
Street and a real backlot tour ?
Post by Steve Russo
Post by Debbi
The Africa Marketplace should open next March. The River of Light (is it
still called that ?) is on schedule for next summer too. There is also
lots of activity behind Kali (hint, hint).
There is a lot of space behind Kali and AK needs a few more classic
attractions to bring the teens back.
Post by Steve Russo
All these hints but I don't know what they mean.
Yeah, sorry. I probably should just keep my mouth shut. I just hate
keeping secrets except that I like keeping my job more!
No, no, no! Keep talking. We understand when you can't say any more and
are thankful for what tidbits you can reveal. While I love surprises,
it's always nice to have an inkling of what's down the road.

Can I infer that the Osborne Lights will return with a reestablishment
of Residential Street?
--
Steve
Debbi
2014-12-03 20:51:58 UTC
Permalink
Post by Steve Russo
No, no, no! Keep talking. We understand when you can't say any more and
are thankful for what tidbits you can reveal. While I love surprises,
it's always nice to have an inkling of what's down the road.
Can I infer that the Osborne Lights will return with a reestablishment
of Residential Street?
Well, you know how old ladies like to gossip ...

I have a feeling that Osborne Lights will return as soon as possible,
even if they have to hang them on RnRC !!! They are a huge draw.

Residential Street is a little further down the pike (ha ha) but that's
where the Lights were originally and will return one day.

-ab
Lisa Cubbon
2014-12-02 22:11:42 UTC
Permalink
Post by Debbi
Post by Steve Russo
Post by Debbi
Our new holiday tag for Illuminations is quite pretty and should
be seen from Showcase Plaza for the full effect. Why is it that every
time I see a new (fan) article about Illuminations, the stated number of
shells in use goes down and the estimated price per night goes up ? Oh
well, the show is on its last legs anyway.
You've been hinting that for a while now. Still too soon to elaborate?
Steve has been dropping hints from time to time but the final script
hasn't been fully blessed. Think retro ...
Post by Steve Russo
Post by Debbi
FYI the BAH will be moved in January - it will be put in storage and
returned to the park after ... well, you'll find out in January. The
Osborne Lights will also be on hiatus after this season (hint, hint).
Remember that the Streets of America is just a set - it can be moved or
rebuilt elsewhere. Wouldn't it be nice to see the return of Residential
Street and a real backlot tour ?
Post by Steve Russo
Post by Debbi
The Africa Marketplace should open next March. The River of Light (is it
still called that ?) is on schedule for next summer too. There is also
lots of activity behind Kali (hint, hint).
There is a lot of space behind Kali and AK needs a few more classic
attractions to bring the teens back.
Post by Steve Russo
All these hints but I don't know what they mean.
Yeah, sorry. I probably should just keep my mouth shut. I just hate
keeping secrets except that I like keeping my job more!
-ab
PLEASE keep your job!!!

Lisa
Debbi
2014-12-03 20:54:32 UTC
Permalink
Post by Lisa Cubbon
Post by Debbi
Post by Steve Russo
All these hints but I don't know what they mean.
Yeah, sorry. I probably should just keep my mouth shut. I just hate
keeping secrets except that I like keeping my job more!
-ab
PLEASE keep your job!!!
Lisa
Thanks Lisa - I was just being dramatic. They'd never throw me out. Who
else could they get to do all the dirty work around here ??

-ab
Lisa Cubbon
2014-12-04 21:33:10 UTC
Permalink
Post by Debbi
Post by Lisa Cubbon
Post by Debbi
Post by Steve Russo
All these hints but I don't know what they mean.
Yeah, sorry. I probably should just keep my mouth shut. I just hate
keeping secrets except that I like keeping my job more!
-ab
PLEASE keep your job!!!
Lisa
Thanks Lisa - I was just being dramatic. They'd never throw me out. Who
else could they get to do all the dirty work around here ??
-ab
I know of several people who would volunteer for that job! To hell with
the right skill set.

Lisa
Greg K.
2014-12-09 00:13:12 UTC
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Post by Steve Russo
Post by Debbi
Our new holiday tag for Illuminations is quite pretty and should
be seen from Showcase Plaza for the full effect. Why is it that every
time I see a new (fan) article about Illuminations, the stated number of
shells in use goes down and the estimated price per night goes up ? Oh
well, the show is on its last legs anyway.
You've been hinting that for a while now. Still too soon to elaborate?
Steve has been dropping hints from time to time but the final script
hasn't been fully blessed. Think retro ...
Post by Steve Russo
Post by Debbi
FYI the BAH will be moved in January - it will be put in storage and
returned to the park after ... well, you'll find out in January. The
Osborne Lights will also be on hiatus after this season (hint, hint).
Remember that the Streets of America is just a set - it can be moved or
rebuilt elsewhere. Wouldn't it be nice to see the return of Residential
Street and a real backlot tour ?
Debbi, I REALLY enjoyed the backlot tour that was when the park first
opened, especially the sound stages. I would really like to see the
behind the scenes and activities and processes of making movies. I
know it has changed a lot in the past 20-30 years with almost
everything being digital. I would like to see a museum of the old
equiptment and processes explained. Some of it is in "One Man's
Dream" which is very cool! I happened to be watching "Ernest Saves
Christmas" (don't ask!) yesterday and noticed at the end that it was
filed at Disney's MGM Studios and on location in Orlando. Hope
something like this comes back.
Greg
Post by Debbi
Post by Steve Russo
Post by Debbi
The Africa Marketplace should open next March. The River of Light (is it
still called that ?) is on schedule for next summer too. There is also
lots of activity behind Kali (hint, hint).
There is a lot of space behind Kali and AK needs a few more classic
attractions to bring the teens back.
Post by Steve Russo
All these hints but I don't know what they mean.
Yeah, sorry. I probably should just keep my mouth shut. I just hate
keeping secrets except that I like keeping my job more!
-ab
Debbi
2014-12-09 16:26:58 UTC
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Post by Greg K.
Post by Debbi
Remember that the Streets of America is just a set - it can be moved or
rebuilt elsewhere. Wouldn't it be nice to see the return of Residential
Street and a real backlot tour ?
Debbi, I REALLY enjoyed the backlot tour that was when the park first
opened, especially the sound stages. I would really like to see the
behind the scenes and activities and processes of making movies. I
know it has changed a lot in the past 20-30 years with almost
everything being digital. I would like to see a museum of the old
equiptment and processes explained. Some of it is in "One Man's
Dream" which is very cool! I happened to be watching "Ernest Saves
Christmas" (don't ask!) yesterday and noticed at the end that it was
filed at Disney's MGM Studios and on location in Orlando. Hope
something like this comes back.
Two big changes in planning, that have happened over the last several
years are 1) the realization that 'retro' is good, and 2) appointments
to creative leadership positions at DHS and Epcot (because of how well
this works at AK and MK).

Phase one for DHS should be announced next month and primarily focuses
on expanding the studio's universe (and footprint), which is long
overdue. This might be seen as the jewel-in-the-crown for WDW's 50th
birthday. Phase two and three have yet to be finalized but will include
(in no particular order) a return to the original concept that D'MGM was
founded on (backlot, animated and live film production, etc), Marvel
properties, and a few surprises.

So I think you will get your wish, in the long run.

-ab
Steve Russo
2014-12-09 23:09:15 UTC
Permalink
Post by Debbi
Post by Greg K.
Post by Debbi
Remember that the Streets of America is just a set - it can be moved or
rebuilt elsewhere. Wouldn't it be nice to see the return of Residential
Street and a real backlot tour ?
Debbi, I REALLY enjoyed the backlot tour that was when the park first
opened, especially the sound stages. I would really like to see the
behind the scenes and activities and processes of making movies. I
know it has changed a lot in the past 20-30 years with almost
everything being digital. I would like to see a museum of the old
equiptment and processes explained. Some of it is in "One Man's
Dream" which is very cool! I happened to be watching "Ernest Saves
Christmas" (don't ask!) yesterday and noticed at the end that it was
filed at Disney's MGM Studios and on location in Orlando. Hope
something like this comes back.
Two big changes in planning, that have happened over the last several
years are 1) the realization that 'retro' is good, and 2) appointments
to creative leadership positions at DHS and Epcot (because of how well
this works at AK and MK).
Phase one for DHS should be announced next month and primarily focuses
on expanding the studio's universe (and footprint), which is long
overdue. This might be seen as the jewel-in-the-crown for WDW's 50th
birthday. Phase two and three have yet to be finalized but will include
(in no particular order) a return to the original concept that D'MGM was
founded on (backlot, animated and live film production, etc), Marvel
properties, and a few surprises.
So I think you will get your wish, in the long run.
That's exciting news. Thanks.
--
Steve
Rudeney
2014-12-01 20:45:33 UTC
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Post by Debbi
Overdosed on turkey. The turkey-bacon Monte Cristo sandwiches weren't
bad. The turkey-squash casserole with marshmallows was horrid. I guess I
should have gone to Boma on that day.
LOL! What about the pumpkin? You know you've gotta have pumpkin in
everything this time of year - pumpkin lattes, pumpkin pie, pumpkin spice
donuts, pumpkin bread, pumpkin tofu...
Post by Debbi
We did run into Robert, who claimed to be the imperial ruler of RADP, at
Epcot on Friday and thus had to give him a tour of the Earth globe
barge.
Robert? Oh, he was banned years ago!
Post by Debbi
Our new holiday tag for Illuminations is quite pretty and should
be seen from Showcase Plaza for the full effect. Why is it that every
time I see a new (fan) article about Illuminations, the stated number of
shells in use goes down and the estimated price per night goes up ? Oh
well, the show is on its last legs anyway.
So, how many shells are there and how much does it cost? :-)
Post by Debbi
FYI the BAH will be moved in January - it will be put in storage
Woohoo! Not a decade too soon!
Post by Debbi
and returned to the park after ... well,
Well CRAP! Please, just don't have it blocking anything - ANYTHING!
Post by Debbi
you'll find out in January. The Osborne Lights will also be on hiatus after
this season (hint, hint).
Oh please - tell me the BAH is not moving to Streets of America! It does NOT
belong there!!!
Post by Debbi
The Africa Marketplace should open next March. The River of Light (is it
still called that ?) is on schedule for next summer too. There is also
lots of activity behind Kali (hint, hint).
At DTD, the first parking garage (aka garage '2') is open, as is the
food truck court and most of the pathways through and around The Landing
(former Pleasure Island). Waterside Park is finished and The Hanger
(bar) will be open in time for Christmas, as will be the Marketplace
Causeway. A third Starbucks will be built in Town Center (yes !!!).
I'm glad for all the Starbucks fans, but I can take it or leave it. I like
coffee (that is the plain, black stuff) in the morning, and I like Starbucks
for that, but I don't care for all the mocha latte flavored stuff. I;d rather
just have a Ghirardelli milkshake.
Post by Debbi
Raglan Road will also have a second presence in Town Center. So, with
many of the walls down, the place is worth visiting again !!
Sounds good! Hopefully some of the congestion will be eased now.
Post by Debbi
Plans for the transition of DHS have been approved and funded. The
green-space and wetlands have been converted so a big announcement is
imminent. In fact, by summer of 2015, several major announcements will
be made because there most of the approved expansions have to be
complete by 2020 and some of them will certainly take that long.
I'm still hoping for Carsland!
Post by Debbi
More later. I have to get some coffee !!
Enjoy your Starbucks!
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Lisa Cubbon
2014-12-01 21:05:46 UTC
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Post by Rudeney
Post by Debbi
Overdosed on turkey. The turkey-bacon Monte Cristo sandwiches weren't
bad. The turkey-squash casserole with marshmallows was horrid. I guess I
should have gone to Boma on that day.
LOL! What about the pumpkin? You know you've gotta have pumpkin in
everything this time of year - pumpkin lattes, pumpkin pie, pumpkin spice
donuts, pumpkin bread, pumpkin tofu...
Pumpkin tofu? I draw the line at anything tofu!
Post by Rudeney
Post by Debbi
We did run into Robert, who claimed to be the imperial ruler of RADP, at
Epcot on Friday and thus had to give him a tour of the Earth globe
barge.
Robert? Oh, he was banned years ago!
Post by Debbi
Our new holiday tag for Illuminations is quite pretty and should
be seen from Showcase Plaza for the full effect. Why is it that every
time I see a new (fan) article about Illuminations, the stated number of
shells in use goes down and the estimated price per night goes up ? Oh
well, the show is on its last legs anyway.
I can believe it. We have not stayed to see the show for a couple years
now. Sadly.
Post by Rudeney
So, how many shells are there and how much does it cost? :-)
Post by Debbi
FYI the BAH will be moved in January - it will be put in storage
Woohoo! Not a decade too soon!
Post by Debbi
and returned to the park after ... well,
Well CRAP! Please, just don't have it blocking anything - ANYTHING!
In the MK Parking Lot? At Disney Springs? A resort wienie????
Post by Rudeney
Post by Debbi
you'll find out in January. The Osborne Lights will also be on hiatus after
this season (hint, hint).
January... Coming soon.....
Post by Rudeney
Oh please - tell me the BAH is not moving to Streets of America! It does NOT
belong there!!!
Post by Debbi
The Africa Marketplace should open next March. The River of Light (is it
still called that ?) is on schedule for next summer too. There is also
lots of activity behind Kali (hint, hint).
Good!
Post by Rudeney
Post by Debbi
At DTD, the first parking garage (aka garage '2') is open, as is the
food truck court and most of the pathways through and around The Landing
(former Pleasure Island). Waterside Park is finished and The Hanger
(bar) will be open in time for Christmas, as will be the Marketplace
Causeway. A third Starbucks will be built in Town Center (yes !!!).
I'm glad for all the Starbucks fans, but I can take it or leave it. I like
coffee (that is the plain, black stuff) in the morning, and I like Starbucks
for that, but I don't care for all the mocha latte flavored stuff. I;d rather
just have a Ghirardelli milkshake.
I am with Rodney on this one. Not a coffee fan anyway.
Post by Rudeney
Post by Debbi
Raglan Road will also have a second presence in Town Center. So, with
many of the walls down, the place is worth visiting again !!
That's news!
Post by Rudeney
Sounds good! Hopefully some of the congestion will be eased now.
Post by Debbi
Plans for the transition
That is an interesting choice of words Debbi!

of DHS have been approved and funded. The
Post by Rudeney
Post by Debbi
green-space and wetlands have been converted so a big announcement is
imminent. In fact, by summer of 2015, several major announcements will
be made because there most of the approved expansions have to be
complete by 2020 and some of them will certainly take that long.
It's OK I will still be around.
Post by Rudeney
I'm still hoping for Carsland!
Post by Debbi
More later. I have to get some coffee !!
Enjoy your Starbucks!
Ciao! Debbi!

Lisa
Sandi Femino
2014-12-03 13:30:12 UTC
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Post by Lisa Cubbon
I can believe it. We have not stayed to see the show for a couple years
now. Sadly.
9 is too late for me these days after walking around the parks all day
and then the drive home. I will be onsite during some of RADP so plan to
see it then...(thanks to a VERY generous DVC friend who passed on points
she couldn't use)
--
Sandi
http://capecodcards.blogspot.com/
Debbi
2014-12-03 14:02:39 UTC
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Post by Lisa Cubbon
Post by Rudeney
Post by Debbi
Overdosed on turkey. The turkey-bacon Monte Cristo sandwiches weren't
bad. The turkey-squash casserole with marshmallows was horrid. I guess I
should have gone to Boma on that day.
LOL! What about the pumpkin? You know you've gotta have pumpkin in
everything this time of year - pumpkin lattes, pumpkin pie, pumpkin spice
donuts, pumpkin bread, pumpkin tofu...
Pumpkin tofu? I draw the line at anything tofu!
Not only do I draw the line there, I generally lose my cookies just
looking at tofu.
Post by Lisa Cubbon
I am with Rodney on this one. Not a coffee fan anyway.
Blasphemy !!
Post by Lisa Cubbon
Post by Rudeney
Post by Debbi
Raglan Road will also have a second presence in Town Center. So, with
many of the walls down, the place is worth visiting again !!
That's news!
Post by Rudeney
Post by Debbi
Plans for the transition
That is an interesting choice of words Debbi!
Thanks for noticing !!

-ab
Lisa Cubbon
2014-12-03 14:56:16 UTC
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Post by Debbi
Post by Lisa Cubbon
Pumpkin tofu? I draw the line at anything tofu!
Not only do I draw the line there, I generally lose my cookies just
looking at tofu.
I always tell people I am allergic to soy which is true but not so
allergic I will die from it.
Post by Debbi
Post by Lisa Cubbon
I am with Rodney on this one. Not a coffee fan anyway.
Blasphemy !!
If you wanted to meet for coffe, I would do coffee!
Post by Debbi
Post by Lisa Cubbon
Post by Debbi
Raglan Road will also have a second presence in Town Center. So, with
many of the walls down, the place is worth visiting again !!
That's news!
Post by Debbi
Plans for the transition
That is an interesting choice of words Debbi!
Thanks for noticing !!
Can mean so much..... And not just glasses that go from light to dark
and back..


Lisa
Post by Debbi
-ab
Debbi
2014-12-04 14:29:55 UTC
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Post by Lisa Cubbon
Post by Debbi
Post by Lisa Cubbon
Pumpkin tofu? I draw the line at anything tofu!
Not only do I draw the line there, I generally lose my cookies just
looking at tofu.
I always tell people I am allergic to soy which is true but not so
allergic I will die from it.
I did have some fried tofu once - cut into little strips and fried,
served with beef and shrimp, and I managed to get through it without
knowing that it was tofu. In Shanghai, tofu is on the menu as both a
side dish and add-on but so far they haven't embraced it as a substitute.
Post by Lisa Cubbon
Post by Debbi
Post by Lisa Cubbon
I am with Rodney on this one. Not a coffee fan anyway.
Blasphemy !!
If you wanted to meet for coffe, I would do coffee!
What I need is a Starbucks at my house. I'd even let the neighbors come
over and use it from time to time (except for the guy with the huge dog
that doesn't clean up after it).
Post by Lisa Cubbon
Post by Debbi
Post by Lisa Cubbon
Post by Debbi
Plans for the transition
That is an interesting choice of words Debbi!
Thanks for noticing !!
Can mean so much..... And not just glasses that go from light to dark
and back..
Nobody really liked that DHS name change anyway ...

-ab
Lisa Cubbon
2014-12-04 22:36:22 UTC
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Post by Debbi
What I need is a Starbucks at my house. I'd even let the neighbors come
over and use it from time to time (except for the guy with the huge dog
that doesn't clean up after it).
LOL!
Post by Debbi
Post by Lisa Cubbon
Post by Debbi
Post by Lisa Cubbon
Post by Debbi
Plans for the transition
That is an interesting choice of words Debbi!
Thanks for noticing !!
Can mean so much..... And not just glasses that go from light to dark
and back..
Nobody really liked that DHS name change anyway ...
-ab
Wait!!!! You just starting something. First a "transition" and now a
"name change." You of all people know we (RADP) don't like CHANGE.


OK I might be an old dog but I can learn new tricks!


Lisa
Mark L Fendrick
2014-12-06 02:01:31 UTC
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Post by Lisa Cubbon
Wait!!!! You just starting something. First a "transition" and now a
"name change." You of all people know we (RADP) don't like CHANGE.
Some change is good ... this is sounding good! :-)



Mark
Rudeney
2014-12-03 18:39:18 UTC
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Post by Debbi
Post by Lisa Cubbon
Post by Rudeney
Post by Debbi
Overdosed on turkey. The turkey-bacon Monte Cristo sandwiches weren't
bad. The turkey-squash casserole with marshmallows was horrid. I guess I
should have gone to Boma on that day.
LOL! What about the pumpkin? You know you've gotta have pumpkin in
everything this time of year - pumpkin lattes, pumpkin pie, pumpkin spice
donuts, pumpkin bread, pumpkin tofu...
Pumpkin tofu? I draw the line at anything tofu!
Not only do I draw the line there, I generally lose my cookies just
looking at tofu.
I actually like tofu - but I like it as "tofu" - not as a substitute for
something else, like meat. Our local Chinese delivery restaurant puts tofu in
their hot and sour soup and I really like it. I'll even eat it on a salad.
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Debbi
2014-12-04 14:32:29 UTC
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I actually like tofu - but I like it as "tofu" - not as a substitute for
something else, like meat. Our local Chinese delivery restaurant puts tofu in
their hot and sour soup and I really like it. I'll even eat it on a salad.
Likes tofu ?? Not a coffee person ?? What planet are you from ??

-ab
Steve Russo
2014-12-04 16:14:09 UTC
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Post by Debbi
Post by Rudeney
I actually like tofu - but I like it as "tofu" - not as a substitute for
something else, like meat. Our local Chinese delivery restaurant puts tofu in
their hot and sour soup and I really like it. I'll even eat it on a salad.
Likes tofu ?? Not a coffee person ?? What planet are you from ??
I think you've combined Rodney (who likes Tofu and coffee) and Lisa (who
doesn't like either). We can start calling them Rosa (or Lidney).
--
Steve
Rudeney
2014-12-04 20:06:25 UTC
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Post by Steve Russo
Post by Debbi
Post by Rudeney
I actually like tofu - but I like it as "tofu" - not as a substitute for
something else, like meat. Our local Chinese delivery restaurant puts tofu in
their hot and sour soup and I really like it. I'll even eat it on a salad.
Likes tofu ?? Not a coffee person ?? What planet are you from ??
I think you've combined Rodney (who likes Tofu and coffee) and Lisa (who
doesn't like either). We can start calling them Rosa (or Lidney).
Wow, and they call me rude! :-P
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Lisa Cubbon
2014-12-04 22:33:58 UTC
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Post by Steve Russo
Post by Debbi
Post by Rudeney
I actually like tofu - but I like it as "tofu" - not as a substitute for
something else, like meat. Our local Chinese delivery restaurant puts tofu in
their hot and sour soup and I really like it. I'll even eat it on a salad.
Likes tofu ?? Not a coffee person ?? What planet are you from ??
I think you've combined Rodney (who likes Tofu and coffee) and Lisa (who
doesn't like either). We can start calling them Rosa (or Lidney).
Wow, and they call me rude! :-P
Oh Hell NO!!! I don't wanna live in B'Ham and he doesn't like Atlanta
traffic...

Lisa
Rudeney
2014-12-04 20:05:37 UTC
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Post by Debbi
Post by Rudeney
I actually like tofu - but I like it as "tofu" - not as a substitute for
something else, like meat. Our local Chinese delivery restaurant puts tofu in
their hot and sour soup and I really like it. I'll even eat it on a salad.
Likes tofu ?? Not a coffee person ?? What planet are you from ??
Whoa! Wait - I *am* a coffee person!!! Lisa is the one who doesn't like
coffee! But, I only like "coffee" - I don't want my coffee to taste like
something else. I mean, if I want a chocolate hazelnut drizzled caramel
donut, I'll have a chocolate hazelnut drizzled caramel donut, not a coffee
flavor like a chocolate hazelnut drizzled caramel donut. :-)
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2014-12-04 22:33:09 UTC
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Post by Debbi
Post by Rudeney
I actually like tofu - but I like it as "tofu" - not as a substitute for
something else, like meat. Our local Chinese delivery restaurant puts tofu in
their hot and sour soup and I really like it. I'll even eat it on a salad.
Likes tofu ?? Not a coffee person ?? What planet are you from ??
Whoa! Wait - I *am* a coffee person!!! Lisa is the one who doesn't like
coffee!
That's right! I don't like coffee. I will drink it after dinner if we
are out. I love Jiko's press-pot and the coffee at Victoria and Albert's!


But, I only like "coffee" - I don't want my coffee to taste like
Post by Rudeney
something else. I mean, if I want a chocolate hazelnut drizzled caramel
donut, I'll have a chocolate hazelnut drizzled caramel donut, not a coffee
flavor like a chocolate hazelnut drizzled caramel donut. :-)
I do put powdered espresso in some brownies and it does add a lot to
chocolate baking items. Andy likes the Ghirardelli chocolate that's
almost sugar free and tastes like chalk to me but he always get the
espresso sundae here.

And I get a free pass on Tofu; allergy right?

Lisa
Debbi
2014-12-09 15:28:48 UTC
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Post by Rudeney
Post by Debbi
Post by Rudeney
I actually like tofu - but I like it as "tofu" - not as a substitute for
something else, like meat. Our local Chinese delivery restaurant puts tofu in
their hot and sour soup and I really like it. I'll even eat it on a salad.
Likes tofu ?? Not a coffee person ?? What planet are you from ??
Whoa! Wait - I *am* a coffee person!!! Lisa is the one who doesn't like
coffee! But, I only like "coffee" - I don't want my coffee to taste like
something else. I mean, if I want a chocolate hazelnut drizzled caramel
donut, I'll have a chocolate hazelnut drizzled caramel donut, not a coffee
flavor like a chocolate hazelnut drizzled caramel donut. :-)
OK, I'm confused but that's not unusual in my old age.

How about tofu-coffee ice-cream ?

ab
and I take mine black, like my men :)
Rudeney
2014-12-10 19:28:51 UTC
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Post by Debbi
Post by Rudeney
Post by Debbi
Post by Rudeney
I actually like tofu - but I like it as "tofu" - not as a substitute for
something else, like meat. Our local Chinese delivery restaurant puts tofu in
their hot and sour soup and I really like it. I'll even eat it on a salad.
Likes tofu ?? Not a coffee person ?? What planet are you from ??
Whoa! Wait - I *am* a coffee person!!! Lisa is the one who doesn't like
coffee! But, I only like "coffee" - I don't want my coffee to taste like
something else. I mean, if I want a chocolate hazelnut drizzled caramel
donut, I'll have a chocolate hazelnut drizzled caramel donut, not a coffee
flavor like a chocolate hazelnut drizzled caramel donut. :-)
OK, I'm confused but that's not unusual in my old age.
Yes, getting old is not for wimps.
Post by Debbi
How about tofu-coffee ice-cream ?
Um, NO!
Post by Debbi
and I take mine black, like my men :)
Well, I am very tan...
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2014-12-02 15:54:44 UTC
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Post by Debbi
Overdosed on turkey. The turkey-bacon Monte Cristo sandwiches weren't
bad. The turkey-squash casserole with marshmallows was horrid. I guess I
should have gone to Boma on that day.
LOL! What about the pumpkin? You know you've gotta have pumpkin in
everything this time of year - pumpkin lattes, pumpkin pie, pumpkin spice
donuts, pumpkin bread, pumpkin tofu...
That is so 'last week'. On to Christmas now. Eggnog. Cookies. Rum.
Post by Rudeney
Post by Debbi
We did run into Robert, who claimed to be the imperial ruler of RADP
Robert? Oh, he was banned years ago!
I knew there was something strange about him.
Post by Rudeney
Oh please - tell me the BAH is not moving to Streets of America! It does NOT
belong there!!!
No, no. The BAH represents the creative side of design and animation and
will return as just that.
Post by Rudeney
I'm glad for all the Starbucks fans, but I can take it or leave it. I like
coffee (that is the plain, black stuff) in the morning, and I like Starbucks
for that, but I don't care for all the mocha latte flavored stuff. I;d rather
just have a Ghirardelli milkshake.
I hear you. And in an interesting twist, it looks like Ghirardelli will
either move to Town Center or expand in it's current location (part of
Disney Springs expansion, phase 3).
Post by Rudeney
Post by Debbi
Raglan Road will also have a second presence in Town Center. So, with
many of the walls down, the place is worth visiting again !!
Sounds good! Hopefully some of the congestion will be eased now.
Some ...
Post by Rudeney
Post by Debbi
Plans for the transition of DHS have been approved and funded. The
green-space and wetlands have been converted so a big announcement is
imminent. In fact, by summer of 2015, several major announcements will
be made because there most of the approved expansions have to be
complete by 2020 and some of them will certainly take that long.
I'm still hoping for Carsland!
Carsland is for tiny parks like DCA ...

-ab
Rudeney
2014-12-02 16:47:50 UTC
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Post by Rudeney
Post by Debbi
Plans for the transition of DHS have been approved and funded. The
green-space and wetlands have been converted so a big announcement is
imminent. In fact, by summer of 2015, several major announcements will
be made because there most of the approved expansions have to be
complete by 2020 and some of them will certainly take that long.
I'm still hoping for Carsland!
Carsland is for tiny parks like DCA ...
Oooh! You're going to anger those left-coasters! I believe the
politically-correct term is "cozy". :-)
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Steve Russo
2014-12-02 18:50:33 UTC
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Post by Rudeney
I'm still hoping for Carsland!
Carsland is for tiny parks like DCA ...
DHS is somewhat tiny... isn't it?
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Debbi
2014-12-03 20:40:22 UTC
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Post by Rudeney
I'm still hoping for Carsland!
Carsland is for COZY parks like DCA ...
DHS is somewhat COZY... isn't it?
Not for too much longer ...

-ab
Lisa Cubbon
2014-12-02 22:13:38 UTC
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Post by Debbi
Post by Rudeney
I'm still hoping for Carsland!
Carsland is for tiny parks like DCA ...
So maybe a WHOLE Radiator Springs????? But I bet money ( I have a
dollar somewhere) that whatever happens will involve Pixar and I hope
it's god something to do with Cars.


Lisa
Post by Debbi
-ab
Debbi
2014-12-03 21:01:21 UTC
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Post by Lisa Cubbon
Post by Rudeney
I'm still hoping for Carsland!
Carsland is for COZY parks like DCA ...
So maybe a WHOLE Radiator Springs????? But I bet money ( I have a
dollar somewhere) that whatever happens will involve Pixar and I hope
it's god something to do with Cars.
Well, I think it's safe to say that Pixar in general, deserves a much
bigger presence in Florida, not to mention a few other properties that
we have acquired over the last several years. Can you tell that I am
just bubbling over with anticipation here ??

-ab
Rudeney
2014-12-03 22:50:06 UTC
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Post by Debbi
Post by Lisa Cubbon
Post by Rudeney
I'm still hoping for Carsland!
Carsland is for COZY parks like DCA ...
So maybe a WHOLE Radiator Springs????? But I bet money ( I have a
dollar somewhere) that whatever happens will involve Pixar and I hope
it's god something to do with Cars.
Well, I think it's safe to say that Pixar in general, deserves a much
bigger presence in Florida, not to mention a few other properties that
we have acquired over the last several years. Can you tell that I am
just bubbling over with anticipation here ??
Yes, your excitement definitely shows. I would say that you really have a
dream job, except for one thing - I know how long it takes to build this stuff
and I don;t think I could handle the anticipation. I would want it done "now"!
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Debbi
2014-12-04 15:03:29 UTC
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Post by Rudeney
Post by Debbi
Well, I think it's safe to say that Pixar in general, deserves a much
bigger presence in Florida, not to mention a few other properties that
we have acquired over the last several years. Can you tell that I am
just bubbling over with anticipation here ??
Yes, your excitement definitely shows. I would say that you really have a
dream job, except for one thing - I know how long it takes to build this stuff
and I don;t think I could handle the anticipation. I would want it done "now"!
Yes, I have the same problem although it's not generally how long it
takes to build it that gets to me, it's how long it takes to get through
design - many very boring meetings that rehash the same issues that have
been rehashed on just about every project since day 1. During the build
phase I can walk the site and see progress every day - that keeps the
anticipation from driving me crazy.

So by now you have seen pictures of the progress at DLS. We finished all
the flood control systems, electrical distribution, both subway
stations, the utilidors, and 18 building foundations for the park. There
is not really going to be a Main Street but there are buildings near the
entrance that have offices in them - those buildings are complete and we
moved into those offices (from the barrack-style buildings we were in
early on).

Roads and markers are all in place for the resorts (room for 5 right
now) and the downtown district and ground was broken for the Toy Story
and Disneyland hotels. When you put all of this together it accounts for
usage on approx 1/3 of the designated lands. Shanghai is busy expanding
S1 and many other surrounding roads.

One great thing about DLS (for me anyway) is that we have access to just
about every kind of pyrotechnic device known to man - and directly from
the manufacturer (which is approx 50km from the park). We have regular
launch points all around the property, just like you might see during
the fireworks for MNSSHP or MVMCP at WDW.

-ab
Patty Winter
2014-12-04 16:27:10 UTC
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Post by Debbi
One great thing about DLS (for me anyway) is that we have access to just
about every kind of pyrotechnic device known to man - and directly from
the manufacturer (which is approx 50km from the park).
Hah, yes, China would be heaven for someone involved in pyrotechnics!!


Patty
Lisa Cubbon
2014-12-04 22:30:31 UTC
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Post by Debbi
Post by Rudeney
Post by Debbi
Well, I think it's safe to say that Pixar in general, deserves a much
bigger presence in Florida, not to mention a few other properties that
we have acquired over the last several years. Can you tell that I am
just bubbling over with anticipation here ??
Yes, your excitement definitely shows. I would say that you really have a
dream job, except for one thing - I know how long it takes to build this stuff
and I don;t think I could handle the anticipation. I would want it done "now"!
Yes, I have the same problem although it's not generally how long it
takes to build it that gets to me, it's how long it takes to get through
design - many very boring meetings that rehash the same issues that have
been rehashed on just about every project since day 1. During the build
phase I can walk the site and see progress every day - that keeps the
anticipation from driving me crazy.
So by now you have seen pictures of the progress at DLS. We finished all
the flood control systems, electrical distribution, both subway
stations, the utilidors, and 18 building foundations for the park. There
is not really going to be a Main Street but there are buildings near the
entrance that have offices in them - those buildings are complete and we
moved into those offices (from the barrack-style buildings we were in
early on).
Roads and markers are all in place for the resorts (room for 5 right
now) and the downtown district and ground was broken for the Toy Story
and Disneyland hotels. When you put all of this together it accounts for
usage on approx 1/3 of the designated lands. Shanghai is busy expanding
S1 and many other surrounding roads.
One great thing about DLS (for me anyway) is that we have access to just
about every kind of pyrotechnic device known to man - and directly from
the manufacturer (which is approx 50km from the park). We have regular
launch points all around the property, just like you might see during
the fireworks for MNSSHP or MVMCP at WDW.
-ab
So now I see this and I know you are still Shanghai-ing it. I have a
question; do you have an apartment to live in? I would go nuts in a
hotel room for as long as you have been there.



I did see the information about the resort hotels etc. Looking forward
to more info


Lisa
Debbi
2014-12-09 16:05:21 UTC
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Post by Lisa Cubbon
Post by Debbi
One great thing about DLS (for me anyway) is that we have access to just
about every kind of pyrotechnic device known to man - and directly from
the manufacturer (which is approx 50km from the park). We have regular
launch points all around the property, just like you might see during
the fireworks for MNSSHP or MVMCP at WDW.
So now I see this and I know you are still Shanghai-ing it. I have a
question; do you have an apartment to live in? I would go nuts in a
hotel room for as long as you have been there.
Lisa - I'm on the 'Shanghai' hook until at least 5/2016 :)

We (WDI) all have apartments in Shanghai and sleeping quarters
(barracks) on property. WDI also has blocks of rooms at several hotels
(generally for meetings and hosting visitors). So we are well cared for.

On the other hand, we don't get many American TV channels over here so
no Walking Dead for me. Plenty of Gilligan's Island re-runs though !!

-ab
John Mc.
2014-12-09 18:57:41 UTC
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Post by Debbi
Post by Lisa Cubbon
Post by Debbi
One great thing about DLS (for me anyway) is that we have access to just
about every kind of pyrotechnic device known to man - and directly from
the manufacturer (which is approx 50km from the park). We have regular
launch points all around the property, just like you might see during
the fireworks for MNSSHP or MVMCP at WDW.
So now I see this and I know you are still Shanghai-ing it. I have a
question; do you have an apartment to live in? I would go nuts in a
hotel room for as long as you have been there.
Lisa - I'm on the 'Shanghai' hook until at least 5/2016 :)
We (WDI) all have apartments in Shanghai and sleeping quarters (barracks)
on property. WDI also has blocks of rooms at several hotels (generally
for meetings and hosting visitors). So we are well cared for.
On the other hand, we don't get many American TV channels over here so no
Walking Dead for me. Plenty of Gilligan's Island re-runs though !!
-ab
Hmmm ...... A sort of symbolism between your time in shanghai and "a
three hour tour"?

John Mc.
Lisa Cubbon
2014-12-11 20:02:35 UTC
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Post by Debbi
Post by Lisa Cubbon
Post by Debbi
One great thing about DLS (for me anyway) is that we have access to just
about every kind of pyrotechnic device known to man - and directly from
the manufacturer (which is approx 50km from the park). We have regular
launch points all around the property, just like you might see during
the fireworks for MNSSHP or MVMCP at WDW.
So now I see this and I know you are still Shanghai-ing it. I have a
question; do you have an apartment to live in? I would go nuts in a
hotel room for as long as you have been there.
Lisa - I'm on the 'Shanghai' hook until at least 5/2016 :)
I think the At LEAST part is important too.
Post by Debbi
We (WDI) all have apartments in Shanghai and sleeping quarters
(barracks) on property. WDI also has blocks of rooms at several hotels
(generally for meetings and hosting visitors). So we are well cared for.
So you often don't get back to the apartment at night. WOW.
Post by Debbi
On the other hand, we don't get many American TV channels over here so
no Walking Dead for me. Plenty of Gilligan's Island re-runs though !!
You can't go wrong with Gilligan's Islands. Is the broadband enough
to get some of this on NetFlix?



be well!

Lisa
Post by Debbi
-ab
Lisa Cubbon
2014-12-04 21:34:01 UTC
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Post by Debbi
Post by Lisa Cubbon
Post by Rudeney
I'm still hoping for Carsland!
Carsland is for COZY parks like DCA ...
So maybe a WHOLE Radiator Springs????? But I bet money ( I have a
dollar somewhere) that whatever happens will involve Pixar and I hope
it's god something to do with Cars.
Well, I think it's safe to say that Pixar in general, deserves a much
bigger presence in Florida, not to mention a few other properties that
we have acquired over the last several years. Can you tell that I am
just bubbling over with anticipation here ??
-ab
So is all that bubbling over returning you to WDW from Shanghai the
Paris of the Orient (Is that what they call it?)


Lisa
Tom Moeller
2014-12-02 00:36:56 UTC
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Post by Tom Moeller
Post by Debbi
So most the Boom family is gathering for the big feast. We'll need to
take over most of Epcot just to hold us all !!
It seemed like nearly every available cast member was on site this week.
I caught myself staring at nametags hoping for a surprise Boom sighting.
I think I ate enough Thanksgiving dinner at Boma to feed everyone...
Overdosed on turkey. The turkey-bacon Monte Cristo sandwiches weren't
bad. The turkey-squash casserole with marshmallows was horrid. I guess I
should have gone to Boma on that day.
The traditional turkey/stuffing/sweet potatoes were great, as were all
the Bomafied items. The butternut squash soup was a hit at our table.
Post by Debbi
We did run into Robert, who claimed to be the imperial ruler of RADP, at
Epcot on Friday and thus had to give him a tour of the Earth globe
barge. Our new holiday tag for Illuminations is quite pretty and should
be seen from Showcase Plaza for the full effect.
Dang it! We were there from 11-7:30, but moved to MK for their evening
parade instead of sitting on the chilly pavement, so we didn't catch
Illumination this trip. So now everyone knows I'm not Robert.
Post by Debbi
Osborne Lights will also be on hiatus after this season (hint, hint).
We heard that rumor, and saw it one last time. I liked the hidden Mickey
lights, especially the super-stealthy one under an awning that you had
to see as a reflection.

We didn't get to take a boat from the IG to DHS because the water levels
were too high for safe bridge passage. I hadn't heard of that happening
before, but after 5-6 inches of rain on Tuesday, I guess anything's
possible.

Tom
Debbi
2014-12-03 14:15:02 UTC
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should have gone to Boma on that day.
Post by Tom Moeller
The traditional turkey/stuffing/sweet potatoes were great, as were all
the Bomafied items. The butternut squash soup was a hit at our table.
I haven't tried the soup yet. With your positive review, I will have to
take the plunge. Generally I am not a fan of squash, even the word makes
me think of something the chef stepped on.
Post by Tom Moeller
We didn't get to take a boat from the IG to DHS because the water levels
were too high for safe bridge passage. I hadn't heard of that happening
before, but after 5-6 inches of rain on Tuesday, I guess anything's
possible.
It happens from time to time. Crescent Lake drains naturally so it can
take a while when at flood level. Eventually we'll add an automated gate
and expand the canal over to CBR.

-ab
Tom Moeller
2014-12-04 12:35:28 UTC
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Post by Debbi
should have gone to Boma on that day.
Post by Tom Moeller
The traditional turkey/stuffing/sweet potatoes were great, as were all
the Bomafied items. The butternut squash soup was a hit at our table.
I haven't tried the soup yet. With your positive review, I will have to
take the plunge. Generally I am not a fan of squash, even the word makes
me think of something the chef stepped on.
I tried it right after the gumbo, so my taste buds may have been biased.
It was a sweet creamy soup, with squash flavor, and my wife noticed lots
of spices (she's low-heat tolerance). Our server mentioned what days
it's usually on the menu (I didn't realize it rotated daily) and that it
was always available next door, if you wanted it but didn't see it. I
don't know if "next door" was the kitchen or the food court.
Post by Debbi
Post by Tom Moeller
We didn't get to take a boat from the IG to DHS because the water levels
were too high for safe bridge passage. I hadn't heard of that happening
before, but after 5-6 inches of rain on Tuesday, I guess anything's
possible.
It happens from time to time. Crescent Lake drains naturally so it can
take a while when at flood level. Eventually we'll add an automated gate
and expand the canal over to CBR.
With everything so flat down there, draining must take a while. Or are
all the waterways designed to be held up a few feet above watertable, so
you can drain down as needed? The Sassagoula looked about a foot high
also, from our POFQ room, but we didn't ask if the boats were running to
Downtown. We saw a few coming from Riverside.

tom
Debbi
2014-12-09 15:20:51 UTC
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Post by Tom Moeller
Post by Debbi
should have gone to Boma on that day.
Post by Tom Moeller
The traditional turkey/stuffing/sweet potatoes were great, as were all
the Bomafied items. The butternut squash soup was a hit at our table.
I haven't tried the soup yet. With your positive review, I will have to
take the plunge. Generally I am not a fan of squash, even the word makes
me think of something the chef stepped on.
Bletch. Well, not all taste buds are created equal ...
Post by Tom Moeller
With everything so flat down there, draining must take a while. Or are
all the waterways designed to be held up a few feet above watertable, so
you can drain down as needed? The Sassagoula looked about a foot high
also, from our POFQ room, but we didn't ask if the boats were running to
Downtown. We saw a few coming from Riverside.
Most of our property drains naturally and yes, the water table (aquifer)
is relatively high so with heavy rains, lake drainage can be an issue.
The parks and resorts are all protected by a series of locks and
drainage canals so while the river(s) may rise a bit, the resorts and
parks should never be flooded. This can be a pain for the boats but it
is all fine-tuned and can't really be modified without long term
consequences.

-ab
Sandi Femino
2014-12-02 13:57:58 UTC
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Post by Debbi
Overdosed on turkey. The turkey-bacon Monte Cristo sandwiches weren't
bad. The turkey-squash casserole with marshmallows was horrid. I guess I
should have gone to Boma on that day.
We did run into Robert, who claimed to be the imperial ruler of RADP, at
Epcot on Friday and thus had to give him a tour of the Earth globe
barge. Our new holiday tag for Illuminations is quite pretty and should
be seen from Showcase Plaza for the full effect. Why is it that every
time I see a new (fan) article about Illuminations, the stated number of
shells in use goes down and the estimated price per night goes up ? Oh
well, the show is on its last legs anyway.
FYI the BAH will be moved in January - it will be put in storage and
returned to the park after ... well, you'll find out in January. The
Osborne Lights will also be on hiatus after this season (hint, hint).
The Africa Marketplace should open next March. The River of Light (is it
still called that ?) is on schedule for next summer too. There is also
lots of activity behind Kali (hint, hint).
At DTD, the first parking garage (aka garage '2') is open, as is the
food truck court and most of the pathways through and around The Landing
(former Pleasure Island). Waterside Park is finished and The Hanger
(bar) will be open in time for Christmas, as will be the Marketplace
Causeway. A third Starbucks will be built in Town Center (yes !!!).
Raglan Road will also have a second presence in Town Center. So, with
many of the walls down, the place is worth visiting again !!
Plans for the transition of DHS have been approved and funded. The
green-space and wetlands have been converted so a big announcement is
imminent. In fact, by summer of 2015, several major announcements will
be made because there most of the approved expansions have to be
complete by 2020 and some of them will certainly take that long.
More later. I have to get some coffee !!
COOL BEANS! thanks for all the tantalizing updates!
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Debbi
2014-12-03 14:17:17 UTC
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Post by Sandi Femino
Post by Debbi
More later. I have to get some coffee !!
COOL BEANS! thanks for all the tantalizing updates!
Cool beans ? Is there some new coffee recipe that I should know about ??

-ab
Steve Russo
2014-11-26 21:36:22 UTC
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Post by Laura Gilbreath
Post by Steve Russo
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/26/business/media/disney-pairs-up-with-turner-to-promote-shows-and-a-ride.html?_r=0
Post by Laura Gilbreath
I wonder how much of the interior will actually be replaced, or will it
be more of a reboot of the movie clips in the pre-show and at the end.
The later. For now.
-ab
Happy Thanksgiving, Boom!
Laura
And a very Happy Thanksgiving to you Laura!
And to all my RADP family, Happy Holidays !!
Back at ya, Boom. And Happy Thanksgiving to all...
--
Steve
Sandi Femino
2014-11-28 19:04:35 UTC
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Post by Debbi
And a very Happy Thanksgiving to you Laura!
And to all my RADP family, Happy Holidays !!
-ab
back at ya, Boom!
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Rudeney
2014-11-26 16:52:21 UTC
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Post by Steve Russo
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/26/business/media/disney-pairs-up-with-turner-to-promote-shows-and-a-ride.html?_r=0
TCM will help the Walt Disney Parks and Resorts division make changes to
the Great Movie Ride, a long-running attraction at the Disney’s
Hollywood Studios section of Disney World in Orlando, Fla.
In return, TCM will receive “Presented by” credits at the attraction on
posters, banners, display windows, marquees and the like, which will
also display the TCM logo.
Sounds like a win-win to me. I know some don't care for Turner's "changes" to
the classics (like colorization) but that doesn't bother me so much. It's not
like they totally destroyed the originals, they just made and enhanced copy
that can help expose classics to people who might not otherwise watch them due
to a lack of color.
Post by Steve Russo
According to TCM executives, the agreement began with an administrative
assistant, Amanda Tymeson, who returned from a visit to Disney World and
suggested “that TCM and Disney would be great partners” in revamping the
Great Movie Ride, Ms. Dorian said. Ms. Tymeson has since been promoted.
Good fer her!
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